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		<title>Comment on Might Want To Hold Up On That Upgrade by kj9100</title>
		<link>http://correctcolor.org/cccommentary/?p=150&#038;cpage=1#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>kj9100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@typhoon, Has this been resolved?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Well, I&#8217;ll admit I do have a Mac. by Scott (OnyxTalk.com)</title>
		<link>http://correctcolor.org/cccommentary/?p=155&#038;cpage=1#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott (OnyxTalk.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently I need to go buy a butt plug.  I had no idea that was a pre-requisite for using color management. It&#039;s also too bad he didn&#039;t want to get too technical and share his sage wisdom on the subject with all us &quot;pholks&quot;.

It sure is easy to complain about how something when you don&#039;t truly understand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently I need to go buy a butt plug.  I had no idea that was a pre-requisite for using color management. It&#8217;s also too bad he didn&#8217;t want to get too technical and share his sage wisdom on the subject with all us &#8220;pholks&#8221;.</p>
<p>It sure is easy to complain about how something when you don&#8217;t truly understand it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Might Want To Hold Up On That Upgrade by Typhoon</title>
		<link>http://correctcolor.org/cccommentary/?p=150&#038;cpage=1#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Typhoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to update this: I&#039;m told by Onyx that I misunderstood what they were telling me when I called this in, and that it&#039;s not all machines with a display, just all Jetis.

So if you&#039;ve got a Nur or a Vutek or a whatever else, evidently this is not an issue for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to update this: I&#8217;m told by Onyx that I misunderstood what they were telling me when I called this in, and that it&#8217;s not all machines with a display, just all Jetis.</p>
<p>So if you&#8217;ve got a Nur or a Vutek or a whatever else, evidently this is not an issue for you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Might Want To Hold Up On That Upgrade by bryanmanwaring</title>
		<link>http://correctcolor.org/cccommentary/?p=150&#038;cpage=1#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>bryanmanwaring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have been looking at this issue at ONYX and have determined that there is an issue in the driver of the Jeti printers in how they create the preview image for those devices.

From our testing of many grand format printers, we have not seen issues with preview images on any other devices.  Typically, preview images are specific for individual printers as they each have their own requirements.

This issue is something that will be corrected in a Jeti driver update when it is ready.  It should not require any changes to the product or applications.

What concerns me is the comment that this apparently affects other printers. We have not seen this to be the case. Are you aware of other printers affected by a similar problem? Any information you can provide would be extremely helpful. Obviously, this is not how we would want our drivers to behave!

Thanks again,
Bryan Manwaring
Product Planning and Architecture Manager
ONYX Graphics, Inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been looking at this issue at ONYX and have determined that there is an issue in the driver of the Jeti printers in how they create the preview image for those devices.</p>
<p>From our testing of many grand format printers, we have not seen issues with preview images on any other devices.  Typically, preview images are specific for individual printers as they each have their own requirements.</p>
<p>This issue is something that will be corrected in a Jeti driver update when it is ready.  It should not require any changes to the product or applications.</p>
<p>What concerns me is the comment that this apparently affects other printers. We have not seen this to be the case. Are you aware of other printers affected by a similar problem? Any information you can provide would be extremely helpful. Obviously, this is not how we would want our drivers to behave!</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
Bryan Manwaring<br />
Product Planning and Architecture Manager<br />
ONYX Graphics, Inc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Color Managed iPhones? by Neil</title>
		<link>http://correctcolor.org/cccommentary/?p=107&#038;cpage=1#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 04:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...why bother?&quot;
I printed a few &#039;we need these large photos of mom near the casket&#039; photos. 
And for the first time ever, I delivered perfectly neutral grays in  b&amp;w photos from a post Correct Color color corrected printer.  That&#039;s why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;why bother?&#8221;<br />
I printed a few &#8216;we need these large photos of mom near the casket&#8217; photos.<br />
And for the first time ever, I delivered perfectly neutral grays in  b&amp;w photos from a post Correct Color color corrected printer.  That&#8217;s why.</p>
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		<title>Comment on East Coast Opportunity by Daniel Joseph Donnelly</title>
		<link>http://correctcolor.org/cccommentary/?p=85&#038;cpage=1#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Joseph Donnelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interested in sharing w/ my production team if applicable, call my cell 404-375-4982. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interested in sharing w/ my production team if applicable, call my cell 404-375-4982. Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on East Coast Opportunity by Daniel Joseph Donnelly</title>
		<link>http://correctcolor.org/cccommentary/?p=85&#038;cpage=1#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Joseph Donnelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interested in sharing with my production team if applicable.
Call ne at 404-375-4982. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interested in sharing with my production team if applicable.<br />
Call ne at 404-375-4982. Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who is the Alien Girl? by John Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 06:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I know about this image that it is part of NUR Macroprint campaign for one of the big shows. Maybe somebody of NUR veterans can add more details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I know about this image that it is part of NUR Macroprint campaign for one of the big shows. Maybe somebody of NUR veterans can add more details.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lost in East LA&#8230; by Cv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, did the phone recover?  Or is that chapter two?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, did the phone recover?  Or is that chapter two?</p>
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		<title>Comment on As interchangeable as piston rods&#8230; by Typhoon</title>
		<link>http://correctcolor.org/cccommentary/?p=48&#038;cpage=1#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Typhoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josef,

I can save you a little bit of trouble. I&#039;ve profiled Rhos in exactly the scenario you describe, and they&#039;re pretty small-gamut machines. You&#039;re not going to get a bigger gamut than Gracol out of a Rho.

However, there are several UV machines out there that do have bigger gamuts than Gracol.

Here are a few if you want to go look:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://correctcolor.org/blogimages/Gracol-1224-970.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gandi 1224&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://correctcolor.org/blogimages/Gracol-950-970.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HP-Scitex FB950&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://correctcolor.org/blogimages/Gracol-250-970.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oce Arizona 250GT&lt;/a&gt;

These are all UV machines printing in a production environment and all of them are on their middle resolution in basically &quot;production&quot; mode. On all of them I&#039;ve positioned the slice to show the machine to its maximum advantage, but it needs to  be remembered that in the areas where Gracol falls outside the gamut of the machine, sending the machine Gracol files won&#039;t make it print there. Only the areas where the two color spaces overlap are available in both spaces--as I&#039;m sure you probably already know.

So even on the Rho, isn&#039;t better to linearize it and profile it and use a workflow for it that&#039;s the same as all the bigger gamut machines in a shop? At least you take full advantage of what&#039;s there.

And of course that&#039;s just UV. And of all inkjet printers, UV machines tend to be the smallest gamut. Most shops I work with are not UV only. They&#039;ve got some UV and some solvent. And the gamut of any decent solvent machine dwarfs Gracol:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://correctcolor.org/blogimages/Gracol-VJ-970.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mutoh ValueJet&lt;/a&gt;

This is just a plain-old garden variety ValueJet right in your backyard as it happens.

What it comes down to to me is this:

The procedures that I use on inkjets grew up in and evolved in and are therefore designed and adapted specifically to the needs of inkjet printers.

G7 was developed specifically as a way to linearize litho presses. When you boil it down past the sales pitch, that&#039;s really all it does.

Is that a good and necessary thing?

Oh hell yeah.

Does that make it the optimum way to get optimum performance out of an inkjet printer?

I say no. 


Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josef,</p>
<p>I can save you a little bit of trouble. I&#8217;ve profiled Rhos in exactly the scenario you describe, and they&#8217;re pretty small-gamut machines. You&#8217;re not going to get a bigger gamut than Gracol out of a Rho.</p>
<p>However, there are several UV machines out there that do have bigger gamuts than Gracol.</p>
<p>Here are a few if you want to go look:</p>
<p><a href="http://correctcolor.org/blogimages/Gracol-1224-970.jpg" rel="nofollow">Gandi 1224</a><br />
<a href="http://correctcolor.org/blogimages/Gracol-950-970.jpg" rel="nofollow">HP-Scitex FB950</a><br />
<a href="http://correctcolor.org/blogimages/Gracol-250-970.jpg" rel="nofollow">Oce Arizona 250GT</a></p>
<p>These are all UV machines printing in a production environment and all of them are on their middle resolution in basically &#8220;production&#8221; mode. On all of them I&#8217;ve positioned the slice to show the machine to its maximum advantage, but it needs to  be remembered that in the areas where Gracol falls outside the gamut of the machine, sending the machine Gracol files won&#8217;t make it print there. Only the areas where the two color spaces overlap are available in both spaces&#8211;as I&#8217;m sure you probably already know.</p>
<p>So even on the Rho, isn&#8217;t better to linearize it and profile it and use a workflow for it that&#8217;s the same as all the bigger gamut machines in a shop? At least you take full advantage of what&#8217;s there.</p>
<p>And of course that&#8217;s just UV. And of all inkjet printers, UV machines tend to be the smallest gamut. Most shops I work with are not UV only. They&#8217;ve got some UV and some solvent. And the gamut of any decent solvent machine dwarfs Gracol:</p>
<p><a href="http://correctcolor.org/blogimages/Gracol-VJ-970.jpg" rel="nofollow">Mutoh ValueJet</a></p>
<p>This is just a plain-old garden variety ValueJet right in your backyard as it happens.</p>
<p>What it comes down to to me is this:</p>
<p>The procedures that I use on inkjets grew up in and evolved in and are therefore designed and adapted specifically to the needs of inkjet printers.</p>
<p>G7 was developed specifically as a way to linearize litho presses. When you boil it down past the sales pitch, that&#8217;s really all it does.</p>
<p>Is that a good and necessary thing?</p>
<p>Oh hell yeah.</p>
<p>Does that make it the optimum way to get optimum performance out of an inkjet printer?</p>
<p>I say no. </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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